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Tothra · Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 9 Location: Finland

How do I know that blue is blue? Shocked

You say that the sky is blue so I name the color I see in the sky blue...
But how to make sure that it is the same blue we both see?

Salith Grinn · Vala Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 336 Location: Baltimore

its really the opposite of blue...which is....?
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Lord of the seas and one of the Valar. He is famed for bringing Tuor to Gondolin, and so ultimately bringing about the downfall of Morgoth in the War of Wrath.
-Encyclopedia of Arda: Ulmo

Tagnar · Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 28

hmm..not-so-blue? Shocked

c_kitty · Joined: 04 Feb 2007 Posts: 36 Location: Sunny SoCal

well, opposite of blue is yellow, if you're talking color wheels - I used to be a photo processor, dontcha know - but that only applies when it's something that is reflecting light, like, ya know, matter. then, yes, the color we see is because only the opposing color(s) actually get to bounce up to our eyeballs cuz they were not absorbed by the, whatever it us. however, when you're talking about light itself, well light actually is the color you see it as - equivalent to a certain energy (reds being on the low end, infra red, below our visual range, is heat. not quite energetic enough to radiate. I think our eyes would have to be something like 3x the size they are now to see infra red & not be swamped by our own body heat - which is why the cold-blooded can 'see' in infra red, as they don't have the body heat problem. ultra violet, past blue & violet & also out of our visual range, is too energetic for our eyeballs to get a lock on it, but plenty of other critters can see it)

For example:

say you're a manufacturer and you want to make your widgets in two "colors", black and white. you'd add all pigments available for the black ones, so that they absorb all light & reflect very little back, so that the surface appears dark. for the white one, you would not add any pigments (provided you started with something colorless to begin with, inherent colors would have to be bleached out somehow) so that your widget would reflect all light for a white surface.

alternately, when you're talking actual light, white means the presence of all colors (play with a prism if you want to see the constituent parts broken out) and black is the absence of all colors, not to mention light, haha.

does that make any sense, or am I still talkin' crazy as usual?

actually, most of this arda learning moment brought to you by Pan via Bob - except for the color wheel bits, I knew that already from photo trainin' - he's the smart one in the family! let's hope this loose nut behind the keyboard got most of her facts straight, as she hasn't had coffee yet lol
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Salith Grinn · Vala Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 336 Location: Baltimore

ok so is that why the predator had to wear that visory mask thing to see right? when he took it off his vision went all mega super ultra thermal
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Lord of the seas and one of the Valar. He is famed for bringing Tuor to Gondolin, and so ultimately bringing about the downfall of Morgoth in the War of Wrath.
-Encyclopedia of Arda: Ulmo

c_kitty · Joined: 04 Feb 2007 Posts: 36 Location: Sunny SoCal

Lanalon · Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 3:59 am Post subject:

Seriously, someone needs to post something or my brain is going to start working....
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Salith Grinn · Vala Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 336 Location: Baltimore

well...a few more weeks and I should have lots to post...but weeks have a way of becoming months....
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Lord of the seas and one of the Valar. He is famed for bringing Tuor to Gondolin, and so ultimately bringing about the downfall of Morgoth in the War of Wrath.
-Encyclopedia of Arda: Ulmo

Tothra · Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 9 Location: Finland

Tagnar · Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 28

Yay yay, me finally got NWN 2 Embarassed

Chew · Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject:

Salith Grinn · Vala Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 336 Location: Baltimore

Tothra, that sums it up perfectly!
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Lord of the seas and one of the Valar. He is famed for bringing Tuor to Gondolin, and so ultimately bringing about the downfall of Morgoth in the War of Wrath.
-Encyclopedia of Arda: Ulmo

c_kitty · Joined: 04 Feb 2007 Posts: 36 Location: Sunny SoCal