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Thorsson · Joined: 13 Aug 2015 Posts: 108

Really wanting that Gimli Dorf Waraxe!

Killed the Great Goblin 20 times, got Gimli Axe piece #6 on kill 10 and 20. As bad as I want the axe, don't think have have another 10 hours in me for a chance to get another #6 instead of #7.

8 Orcring's dropped tho.

energon · Guest

I put your post here Thorsson so we can talk about specific mobs that may need their drops looked at Smile

It will help as a guide when changing scripts

Exavior · Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 309

What drop rate would be good? 10% for each unique drop?

The problem with the drop scripts as they stand as I said is they are not all consistent. While all as based on random numbers, some lists have more items than others in the drop lists, making some bosses drops more rare. a boss with 10 items will have a better drop rate than a boss with 20 items etc.

I edited all the drop lists on my offline version to drop ALL of the items on the list (mundane as well as rare) and some bosses had 1-2 pages of items, and a few had 5-6 pages of items.

So, do we want to change it so you always get a unique drop each kill, and then which unique item is where the rate is fixed? Or do we want it so that you still have the mundane items dropping on the drop rate?

i.e.
System 1: Drops 1) 1000 coins 2) +3 item off list 3) Unique item off list
System 2: Drops 1) 1000 coins 2) +3 item or rare off list 3) +3 item or rare off list

This also bring into the equation, what about powerful items, should they have a smaller drop rate than less powerful items? We all know how long it can take to get a beast ring, should that remain the case or should be even out the rates so it's fairer?

Thorsson · Joined: 13 Aug 2015 Posts: 108

I ended up killing the Great Goblin about 35 times and ended up with 4 Gimli Axe #6 pieces and no #7's. I had to give up before I went insane Wink

If you could check/tweak the Gimli Axe drop rates on Annatar, Uvatha and the Necromancer that would be great Smile

Besides the Great Goblin's #7, those are the ones I need.

energon · Guest

i'm not sure about a flat 10% - i think it should depend on how powerful / desirable the drop is. but forge recipe pieces (#1-8 of whatever) should definitely be increased i think. also i think there should be a chance to get nothing except a rusty ORD Smile

maybe something like this:

named item: 10% chance
high-quality named item: 5% chance
forge recipe ingredients: 10-20%

and then give more annoying bosses (long travel times and big drop lists) an extra loot roll.

i wouldn't be lowering any existing drop chances of course. and the above pretty much falls in line with how i've adjusted a couple scripts earlier.

i'd really like to switch all the custom drop scripts over to local variables and a master drop script, but that's a bit beyond me at the moment. Serra has a great post on here about it somewhere.

Thorsson · Joined: 13 Aug 2015 Posts: 108

That would be nice. Without anyone trading, the current drops can get very discouraging fast. Too bad that there wasn't a script that would increase the % of drops the more people in the party, or at least each party member get a lootable corpse but I am sure that is a pipe dream, lol.

I think the Great Goblin's Gimli Axe #7 is broke, he only drops #6.

Thank you for all your work!

Exavior · Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 309

I used the 10% as as example...it would depend on how many drops a boss has.

Annatar is an example of a boss who has 5-6 pages of drops. He drops an insane amount of gear. This means he tends to drop stuff less often.

Thorsson · Joined: 13 Aug 2015 Posts: 108

double post

Thorsson · Joined: 13 Aug 2015 Posts: 108

Exavior · Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 309

Trouble is that as it uses a random number generator to do the drops, it's entirely possible to do a boss many times and get the same drop.

28 times is actually not a lot in arda terms. I'm sure most of us have killed Ren far more times than that trying to get a beast ring.

Plus, there is one item that Annatar drops that I've never seen on the server. I had no idea it exsisted...

Thorsson · Joined: 13 Aug 2015 Posts: 108

Yeah my beast ring took forever.

Thorgal · Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 706 Location: Switzerland

im trying to get mirrin (the stone, not the amy) from Herumor... and i passed 50 times through it without haveing the drop.
maybe we should post on forum and arrange a meeting in order to trade.
btw - i ll be online this eve and i have some gimlis parts spare.

Or.....could it be possible to make like a "bank" chest or a NPC which could be used as a trade possibility without having your dealing partner (PC) being online?
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Exavior · Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 309

That would be amazing. Would have to be saved with server resets though.

Thorsson · Joined: 13 Aug 2015 Posts: 108

I was able get Uvatha to drop Gimli #2 and the Great Goblin finally gave up a #7. Now it all depends on how stingy The Necromancer for #8 and Annatar for #5 are.

Thorsson · Joined: 13 Aug 2015 Posts: 108

How about upping Bolvag? We have dropped him 5 times with nothing but +3 weapons and gold? Pretty tough for now reward.